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Nathan

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#21
I'm an old fart - Tom Baker is peak Doctor Who from my mis-spent youth. By and large I've been a bit underwhelmed with new Doctor Who. It has its moments but a lot of the scripts are a bit crap, and I've only bothered watching a smattering of episodes here and there. Sadly, I think my fanboy days are consigned to the annals of history.

So, I took a look at the Jodie Whittaker episodes to see what the storm in a teacup was about, starting an iplayer account just to do this (which shows how much TV I actually watch these days). Actually, she pretty much nailed the Doctor, getting the mannerisms right with a sort of lost soul vibe that goes quite nicely with the TNG who conceits. Whether or not you think we needed a female Doctor, you can't fault her acting and I can see why the casting folks thought she really nailed the auditions - I've seen worse from both new and old Doctor Who. Yes, the scripts were not-terribly-good, especially the one with the spiders and the totally-not-Donald-Trump villain, but that's an entirely different issue.

Blink proved that they can do good scripts, but that was more than 10 years ago and they've not managed to do it consistently. It may be rose-tinted glasses, but I think they had a much better handle on their script editing around the Douglas Adams era, even after Adams left, and haven't managed to get it together with this in the new Who era. I remember seeing repeats of some of the Space Ark episodes a few years ago and thinking they had aged surprisingly well for something made about 35 years before I saw them.

Still - Liberator > TARDIS > Enterprise. Change my mind...

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I feel Jodie is a fantastic Doctor and she has had some cracking stories too, such as Rosa, Demons of Punjab, The Witchfinders, Resolution, Fugative of the Judoon and The Haunting of Villa Diodati. I’ve found that all Nu Who seasons are very inconsistent, with some gems hidden among the chaff.
 
#22
I can cope with sets that look like they'll collapse if you look at them wrong, I can cope with mildly wooden plots, but those costumes...
IIRC in at least one season the costume budget ate every other budget, hence the need to build models from hairdryers and bits out of the spares box. :LOL:

Seriously, though, I think any new version needs to find a way to make those fashions work, they were an important part of the look just like the (better) spaceship models. Crazy fashions can work in SF provided there is a good designer behind them - case in point, Fifth Element, though I guess not many shows have the budget to hire the likes of Jean Paul Gaultier.
 
#23
I feel Jodie is a fantastic Doctor and she has had some cracking stories too, such as Rosa, Demons of Punjab, The Witchfinders, Resolution, Fugative of the Judoon and The Haunting of Villa Diodati. I’ve found that all Nu Who seasons are very inconsistent, with some gems hidden among the chaff.
I think that sums up my Nu Who experience as well. There's a bit of good stuff there but a lot of dross (and I'm getting quite cynical and picky about what TV I do watch). They don't have good quality control on their scripts and let a lot of real howlers through - Spitfires in space anyone?

It feels like they don't understand the IP or their fan base very well, or just have too much demand for scripts to be able to afford high standards. One of the strengths of the older 4-6 part cliffhanger format is that you had fewer stories but they could be longer and have more depth. You had more flex for things you could do without having to pack it into a 50 minute episode, and you could afford to be pickier about the scripts.

I'm not sure how their process works, but quite a few of the episodes I've seen come across as being written by someone without much background in sci-fi. I'd be inclined to suggest that reading the whole of Atomic Rockets should be mandatory training for any script writer on a TV sci-fi show. But, maybe I'm being too much of a crusty old grog.
 
#26
Now, on to the ships - is there anyone who would argue that the Liberator is not the most iconic and elegant fictional vessel ever to grace the screen? And the other "proper" models were pretty good, too - the London, the Pursuit Ships, Servalan's Commissioner Sleer's Cruiser, the Scorpio ...

 

Maddz

Rune Priest
#28
Now, on to the ships - is there anyone who would argue that the Liberator is not the most iconic and elegant fictional vessel ever to grace the screen? And the other "proper" models were pretty good, too - the London, the Pursuit Ships, Servalan's Commissioner Sleer's Cruiser, the Scorpio ...

Many years ago I used to go to the Bournemouth Science Fiction & Fantasy Group and one of the other members was Martin Bower.

'Nuff said.
 
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