[generic] Grammar

#2
If we're talking Gumshoe then the longhand version is 'One-2-One'.
No, I'm talking English.

It's a widespread trend, eg among online microbusinesses; and a subset of the mind-reading assumption fallacy. A reader is usually in the mode of reading words and may not be primed to interpret 'a hundred and twenty-one' appearing randomly in a sentence. Hashtags speedbumps, userfocus.
 

Guvnor

The Guvnor
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#3
A reader is usually in the mode of reading words and may not be primed to interpret 'a hundred and twenty-one' appearing randomly in a sentence. Hashtags speedbumps, userfocus.
Is it appropriate to use one, two, three and then 4,5,6 e.g. one use words for the first three numbers? Or is it simply being consistent?
 
#6
There are two answers here.

a) It is common style guide practice to write out numbers one to ten and give figures for higher ones that would be long like 73. (In rpg books, it's standard to say numbers that are about rules are always numerals.)

b) My point above is nothing to do with that at all. If you use '121' to stand for 'one to one', it requires the reader to realise that they need to parse the numbers phonetically rather than as a number. If they haven't come across that before and don't click into it, the sentence makes no sense. It's an assumption that the reader thinks the same way you do, and therefore bad communication.
 

Maddz

Rune Priest
#7
b) My point above is nothing to do with that at all. If you use '121' to stand for 'one to one', it requires the reader to realise that they need to parse the numbers phonetically rather than as a number. If they haven't come across that before and don't click into it, the sentence makes no sense. It's an assumption that the reader thinks the same way you do, and therefore bad communication.
One the other hand, if it is written as 1-2-1 or even 1:1 then it's immediately parseable as shorthand for one-to-one. 121 is a potential disconnect - it's a number, not shorthand.

Ah, pedantry rules! (Eats, Shoots and Leaves anyone?)
 

Guvnor

The Guvnor
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#8
I am genuinely interested. When I write papers I use the rule of one, two, three then 4,5,6 and so on.

I agree that '121' is a number and would be very confusing. "1-2-1" is perhaps better, but I think Tim is right, and I believe he's done a bit of this, clarity and ease of reading seems to suggest "one-to-one".

It's not really grammar is it? It's style.. is that right @Tim Gray ?
 

Dom

Administrator
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#10
clarity and ease of reading seems to suggest "one-to-one".
Just to note that Pelgrane have used "One-2-One" (probably for trademark reasons) which would also have been more clear.

Rather than silently edit my own post and make this discussion look ridiculous, I shall just go and stand in the naughty corner.
 
#12
I think Pelgrane has One-2-One as both trademark and vague pun, there being two players in total. Of course, the pun fails in languages other than English. Whether it succeeds in English is debatable; after all, we're debating it here.
 
#14
My awareness was sharpened by doing freelance web design and hanging around discussions about online microbusinesses. Any visitor to your site is within a gnat's crotchet of going somewhere else, so you have to be really aware of not putting any obstacles in their way while building the relationship that'll lead them to stay around.
 
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