[none] Is there a game that fits this description?

#1
At Leeds Steampunk market today the clientele for my games was primary aged children and associated parents/grandparents. One was a grandmother interested in playing a game with her grandchildren at Christmas.

I found myself struggling to suggest a good starter game for pre-teens and parents. All the games I can think of, including the 5th Ed. Starter set etc. require quite a bit of "buy in" up front. Is there anything out there you'd recommend for a family with preteens and adult with limited TTRPG experience de that they could get into easily?

Traditionally at Christmas in the past a family could open up a board game and start playing together. Monopoly, anyone? Families should be able to play TTRPGs together, but where is that game?

Imagine a box. It contains full colour pregens which engaging but easy to read. Minis. Play mats. A complete adventure which an adult could read and run out of the box. Complete but easy to run rules. And enough advice, additional adventures and levelling up rules to allow it to be played over and over again. A game the family could play together, out of the box.

Does anything like this exist? Should if? Could it? I don't think you could cut down (eg). 5th Ed to do this but anything lighter might not have the depth required.
 
#2
You need to know the children:

For pre-teens if you want the full box experience I might recommend No Thank You, Evil! (http://www.nothankyouevil.com/)

For young girls I'd probably go with My Little Pony: Tales of Equestria Starter Kit (https://riverhorse.eu/our-games/my-little-pony-tails-of-equestria/). Its a better game but boys may rebel at the theme.

If they are willing to spend a little more money the Tales of Equestria core rules plus the 'The Curse' Adventure pack is a better buy, and will give you dice, tokens, GMs screen, full rules and adventure screen (ie Everything you need)

And for boys aged 12 and up playing with an adult I'd go with the D&D Essentials kit (https://dnd.wizards.com/products/tabletop-games/rpg-products/essentials-kit).

Also, but now hard to get, the Doctor Who Adventures in Time and Space boxed sets were excellent but now out of print, but if you search real hard you can still find them. (https://www.shopontheborderlands.co...david-tennant-edition-boxed-roleplaying-game/ )
 
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Maddz

Rune Priest
#3
I don't have anything particular in mind, but I'd look for something downloadable that's either free or less than £10 on DriveThru. The last thing you want to do is suggest something that requires significant monetary investment or a specialist shop.

Wasn't someone on the Tavern introducing their youngish kids to RPGs a while back and had some simple rules? I recall reading their write=up.
 
#4
I don't have anything particular in mind, but I'd look for something downloadable that's either free or less than £10 on DriveThru. The last thing you want to do is suggest something that requires significant monetary investment or a specialist shop.

Wasn't someone on the Tavern introducing their youngish kids to RPGs a while back and had some simple rules? I recall reading their write=up.

Well if you are looking for cheap downloadable child friendly games you cant go wrong with FirstFable (Free)(https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/432/OneBookShelf-Inc/subcategory/1314_9476/FirstFable) or Risus: The Anything RPG (Free)(https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/170294/Risus-The-Anything-RPG?cPath=24710_27894). Both use d6s so they can use dice lying about.

For older children the D&D Basic Rules are a grteat starting point and again free (https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/basicrules), but will require you to buy dice (or download an app).

For a small increase in Budget you can pick up Amazing Tales, complete kids' RPG (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/11498/Amazing-Tales) which is stunningly simple. Like D&D this will require you to buy some polyhedrals.

The most popular downloadable game for Kids though is HeroKids (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/4846/Hero-Forge-Games/subcategory/9206_9390/Hero-Kids). I think its fair to say its very well supported, but unlike most of the previously suggested games its very very combat focused which to me is an issue in a children's game. Note: Most people recommend this game very highly, and in my experience it goes down extremely well with kids. Its generally just some parents who have an issue with the combat focus.

Finally, for a surprisingly good unheard of game, can I recommend DungeonTeller (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/6086/Blue-Boxer-Rebellion), which is beautifully easy to understand and in my experience goes down well with kids.
 
#5
Thanks for all the suggestions. I’ve bought and promote Amazing Adventures to parents. It’s an amazing piece of work but works within a family, not as a general #TTRPG.

I’ll look into the others.
 
#6
I almost forgot. Any of the four Star Wars Beginner boxes are also superb places to start:

Star Wars: Edge Of The Empire Beginner Game (https://www.gameslore.com/acatalog/PR_Star_Wars_RPG_Edge_Of_The_Empire_Beginner_Game.html)
Star Wars: Age of Rebellion Beginner Game (https://leisuregames.com/products/star-wars-age-of-rebellion-beginner-game)
Star Wars: Force and Destiny Beginner Game (https://leisuregames.com/products/star-wars-force-and-destiny-beginner-game)
Star Wars: Force Awakens Beginner Game (https://leisuregames.com/products/star-wars-the-force-awakens-beginner-game).

Go with Edge Of The Empire if you want games about Han and Chewie, Age of Rebellion if you want games about the Rebel Alliance, Force and Destiny if you want games about Jedi and Force Awakens if you want the most reusable stuff (The system map is only found in this game). However whilst the first three have online downloadable adventures to continue the plot started in the box set, Force Awakened doesn't.

There is also the Starfinder RPG: Beginner Box (https://www.gameslore.com/acatalog/PR_Starfinder_RPG_Beginner_Box.html). It looks pretty complete.. but Starfinder is probably the most complex game on this list so I wouldn't recommend it for pre-teens.

Finally, The new Warhammer Starter set may be a complete set - I don't know. I don't own it.
 
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#7
A few don't:

Dont recommend Adventure Maximus! (https://www.adventuremaximus.com/). It claims to be a simple rules complete RPG with everything you need - but its truely terrible.

Don't recommend the D&D Starter set - It's good but Essentials is better.
Don't recommend either the Stranger Things or Rick and Morty D&D starter sets - both give up space needed for rules to flavour text. Both also seem a lot lighter on stuff than either the Starter set or Essentials - I'm guessing the fact they had to pay for licences left less money for actual content. The Essentials set (or even the Starter Set) are better buys.
 
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#8
Simon. I guess you were being modest but... surely any of your stuff? Any of the Codes or SQUK is pretty easy, is fun and doesn't require a massive outlay up front. Plus, if you'd already run a Game or two; they were already familiar with the rules.
 
#9
Ancient Odysseys: Treasure Awaits! from Precis Intermedia is worth a look, particularly the compact boxed set. It doesn't try to do too much and provides plenty to get started with in a clear format, although it isn't as fancy a presentation as some beginners' games (the free Conflict Kit gives you a nice set of colour minis in the Cardboard Heroes style and a simple combat map).
 

Guvnor

The Guvnor
Staff member
#10
I tried Ancient Odyssey and it's not at all young kids or parents friendly. I don't find it "old hand" friendly IMHO
 
#13
Some good suggestions above. I've had some success with No Thank You Evil, and Amazing Adventures. Also riffing off of the latter I used a simplified HeroQuest system with my son who was 5, asked them to pick three things their character is good at, rank them and assign them ratings of 17.15 and 13 in order. They can get to roll a big D20

I've also dabbled with HeroKids, it's a fun and simple system but it's pretty much all about combat

Another game I'm hearing good things about but haven't tried yet is Power Outage

But as far as the all-in-one box set is concerned, No Thank you Evil is currently the only one I can thing ok.
 
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