Other Games Just how much would Tolkien have loved RPGs?

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Given that JRR (unlike his estate) believed that stories were for adopting, adapting and retelling, just how much would he have loved RPGs?

Which ones would he have run?
Which would he (and/or his mates) have played?
Would there be some he'd really not have warmed to?

Go mad chums:
 

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@Big Jack Brass whilst he may have been as adverse to certain words or terms as any one from a different generation ( and as a philologist he may have loved the evolution of language) but I think his love of deeply detailed source material means he'd have loved sourcebooks and setting materials.

@nclarke JRR certainly had a Catholic sensibility deep in his myth making, but far deeper than CS Lewis who placed it front and centre. Stafford's myth making/retelling would have appealed to him IMHO, even if he didn't share Greg's shamanism. The love of Northern European cultures, Saxons and so on would, again IMHO, have made the Orlanthi Heortlings close to his heart. I bet he'd be as wary of Aldryami and Mostali as I am..

If they had overlapped in life span and location I can imagine JRR playing in MAR Barker's Friday night Tékumel games and making up languages together.
 
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If they had overlapped in life span and location I can imagine JRR playing in MAR Barker's Friday night Tékumel games and making up languages together.
It would have been absolutely fascinating to see what Tolkien would have made of Tékumel's nudity, sexual rites and mores, choices for female equality and so forth, without even considering the squickier of its demons... Perhaps languages would have been a safer common ground for both professors.

I imagine that he would have balked at the likes of Warhammer and would have found a great many fantasy settings to be trivial and fatally flawed, but perhaps Harn might have won his approval.
 
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Not so keen on the earlier Wargames/combat based ones, happier with the more FreeForm storytelling?
I wonder what his thoughts on wargames were? He would surely have known of them, even though for most of his life they would have been primarily either Wellsian toy soldiers or more tutorial military exercises. His work (academic and literary) suggests a passion for dealing with the technical construction of language and story, so one could speculate that structured rules may have appealed.
 
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I think he'd have been a fan of repurposing myth and some of the deep fantasy world building.

Tekumel, Glorantha, yes. I reckon he'd have liked Symbaroum...for my money that's the most Tolkienesque RPG out there, with the exception of the One Ring, in that it draws from similar myths...but does something quite different with the outcomes.

I bet he'd have liked Pendragon and Ars Magica too.

I wonder what he'd have made of Talislanta.
 

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I think and you know I adore Talislanta that it is more of a mad kitchen sink of a setting, with little mythic depth.
Tal is very Vancian Big Planet, and at it's heart, despite the magic, is SF.. and I can accept that as science fantasy or science fiction.
I think Sechi would be quite happy with that description himself.

JRR may not have engaged with the One Ring as we might imagine either.. unlike GRR Martin who is such a gamer, he may have had a totally different style of play and found TOR didn't gel with his own creation.. we see that a lot with creators.. I am thinking of you, Alan Moore.. and frankly that Moorcock chappie.. On the other hand, if he'd been a gamer from day one, as would make sense, the early days could have seen a core UK rpg actually written by/with him..

As for Pendragon, I bet he'd have played it, but his goal was genuinely English mythmaking, not British.

Not sure where I meandered there, better do some work instead.. TTFN.
 

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I wonder what his thoughts on wargames were? He would surely have known of them, even though for most of his life they would have been primarily either Wellsian toy soldiers or more tutorial military exercises. His work (academic and literary) suggests a passion for dealing with the technical construction of language and story, so one could speculate that structured rules may have appealed.
It's not at all improbable he'd have pootled along to a Fellow's rooms and pushed around some lead. If he's got into it, Rohirrim cavalry and elf/dwarf minis couldn't have been far behind.. or would he have tended to sit back with a pint and a pipe and tell stories of the minis?
 
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