Lyonesse: Print Proof

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510 pages of Lyonesse


Loz Whitaker just shared a photo of the print proof of the Lyonesse RPG on the Design Mechanism's Facebook page. I'm so excited that this is near to release. Can't wait for the physical copy!

Thanks to the vagueries of the alphabet, my name ends up first on the author list!

27 March 2020

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Dom, I thought you were against these ultra thick tomes of lore and traditional rules mechanics,, but were instead all into those small A5 size modern RPGs that are sparse on lore and with lighter rulesets?
 
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Out of curiosity, does Lyonese offer the more authentic interpretation of Vancian magic rules than what Gary Gygax adapted (from Jack Vance's Dying Earth) for Dungeons and Dragons?
 

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Just...too...much...book. For me, anyway. Shame.
Bear in mind that’s the POD print not offset so thicker. Layout reminds me of first edition Pendragon. Lots of white space.

Main reason it’s so big is that there is a lot of background material to present. It’s also the complete RPG (developed from Mythras).
 

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Dom, I thought you were against these ultra thick tomes of lore and traditional rules mechanics,, but were instead all into those small A5 size modern RPGs that are sparse on lore and with lighter rulesets?
I prefer smaller books, yes, but I have no issues with traditional mechanics. I wouldn’t be running 5e and Traveller if I was against a traditional games. I don’t like complicated, poorly written rules and crappy layout that makes things harder to follow (STA I’m looking at you).

Mythras - as a D100 based engine - is pretty light, plus I’ve years of running CoC, RuneQuest 2 and 3, Ringworld, and Stormbringer/Elric!

As to the amount of lore: this is a licensed RPG in a detailed world bursting with setting. If this was Stormbringer, it’s the core rules with the Atlas of the Young Kingdoms and Bronze Grimoire integrated.

There’s a lot of material but there’s a huge amount of space to play in. Each kingdom is described with significant places and NPCs. There’s some really good random table stuff for ideas etc. I’m in awe what my fellow writers did. I’m also aware that we had to cut stuff out.

The artwork is gorgeous. I absolutely love it.
 
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Bear in mind that’s the POD print not offset so thicker. Layout reminds me of first edition Pendragon. Lots of white space.

Main reason it’s so big is that there is a lot of background material to present. It’s also the complete RPG (developed from Mythras).
Tempted I must say, but Marie Kondo's voice always in my mind when I contemplate news purchases these days.
 

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Loz' post says that the DTRPG POD release will come first because offset is messy in the current times. I expect it won't be too long as he's reviewing the print proofs at the moment.
 
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It's a lot bigger than I expected, and a bit intimidating I have to admit. I would probably prefer to have that rules/atlas split even though 2 books would cost more. But I've been looking forward to it for too long not to get it now.
 

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Don’t be intimidated. The style is light and easy to read. I’m referencing the old Elric! and Pendragon books because it has the same lightness to read.
 

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If I could do it I would get in a time machine, go to next year, buy a copy and come back now to have it even before Loz!!
 
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Okay, Lyonese looks interesting. What are the differences in brief between Lyonese versus Mythras, which is also Arthurian fantasy? Then there is Mythic Britain which I am guessing is missing Arthur.
 

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Mythras is a RQ style engine core rules. There are quite a few different supplements for it. Others here are far more qualified to comment on it, but my skimming of the Core rules didn’t make it seem especially Arthurian.

Lyonesse tailors the game to the setting of the trilogy and makes it completely stand alone.

Don’t ask me about the rules, I’ve read them but my writing was all setting.
 

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Mythras isn't Arthurian.
It's the most advanced and well designed iteration of d100 IMHO.
Mythras Britain *is* Arthurian, it requires the core Mythras rules. @dr_mitch has written supplements for it.
Lyonesse is a fully self contained game based on Mythras based on the Arthurian-esque novels of Jack Vance.
I recommend reading the Vance novels.
 
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