[watching] [Spoilers] Jessica Jones Season 3

#3
I've been pacing myself. And it's a good series to do that because instead of spiralling around one story, as too many of the Netflix series do - the tend to rely on the bingability to stretch out a single plot too thinly (JJ Series 2 being a prime example) - it had several places where it could have ended and all the stuff after each false peak felt like a bonus.

I love it when an actress/actor puts in the work. The actress playing Trish earnt her pay check and more.

Loved it. Possibly enjoyed it more than any other Netflix Marvel series and the best JJ series.

I don't know what the contract situation is but if I were Disney I'd lay out to pick this lot up as is. Money in the bank.
 

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#4
I think that there is a 2 year break clause from what I read in the media.

Of the series, Jessica Jones is my favourite closely followed by Daredevil. There are times I almost feel guilty how much I enjoyed the Punisher. The only series that really disappointed for me was The Defenders.

I also liked the way each series/hero had their own flavour.
 
#5
Personally, I felt season one was the best. To me the series has been slowly going down hill ever since. The only interesting story-arc from season three was...

...Trish Walker becoming Wild Cat and her decent into darkness. However, Hellcat wasn't really a dark character in the comics per se. So I'm guessing any future story line on screen - if it comes to Disney+ in 2021 - will revolve around her redemption.

I think that there is a 2 year break clause from what I read in the media.
For television or streaming, yes there is a 2 year break clause. This does not apply for film adaptations, however.
 

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#6
That was the main story arc!

The serial killings were just a backdrop to counter-point Jessica and Trish against.
 
#7
I disagree. There was two story threads running through the entire series...

...Trish becoming Hellcat and the deeds of the serial killer Salinger - who is better known as Foolkiller. Both were completely unlike their comic counterparts. Hellcat is a goody who works mainly with the Avengers and occasionally the Defenders. Foggy Nelson even gives Trish the name Hellcat. Whereas Salinger/Foolkiller starts off as a baddie but then ends up working with Deadpool in the Mercs for Money and he was later recruited by SHIELD. Salinger/Foolkiller is a grey character and was a wasted opportunity onscreen. I also didn't see why they needed to turn Trish/Hellcat against Jessica Jones and make her an antagonist. As a fan of the original comics, I was disappointed with the direction they took season three.
 
#9
The main issue I have with Jessica Jones is the inability of the writers to understand the source material.

They killed off Killgrave (Purple Man) without a second thought. He is a major villain in the Marvel continuity and first appeared in Daredevil in the 1960s. Yes he does have a past with Jessica Jones, when she was going under the superhero name Jewel, so they have a past together and this is (sort of) covered in the TV series. However, Jessica's superhero past is totally ignored, as well as her ability to fly (or did she forget how to do that?). In comics she never killed off Killgrave either and he returns later on to trouble her once more.

Also ignored is Jessica's past links with Spider-Man, her friendship with Captain Marvel, Jean Gray training her to combat Killgrave's powers after she first encounters him, Jessica working with Doctor Strange, and her membership of The Avengers. Then there is her past where she adopted the name Knightress which eventually leads to her first meeting Luke Cage. Again her Knightress past is ignored by the writers. Then in season three we get to Foolkill aka Salinger, who is killed off like Killgrave without a thought and wasting another potential future antagonist. In fact they could have used a generic serial killer for that story thread and not have bothered with a named comic book villain.

By the way, the newest iteration of Jessica Jones comic that launched in 2016, a year after the TV series starts streaming, is very much like the TV series, so the "source material" has been changed to match the TV series. I understand that after the success it has had, but that comic is a continuation and not a reboot.
 

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#10
Ahh. Therein lies the issue. I have absolutely no emotional ties with the original material and am just watching it for what it is. You are wanting more from it than me, and with film/TV scripts that's a rare thing to happen.
 
#11
I understand that TV writers will want to change things. That's not my point. It's when the writers totally ignore aspects of the source material that are important and needless kill off popular villains I object to.

Even the writers of Jessica Jones admit that they should have never killed off Purple Man aka Killgrave. That was a misstep. The writers of Daredevil were spot on with keeping Fisk (Kingpin) and Bullseye alive, allowing them to return in the future. They kept Diamond Back alive in Luke Cage. In Iron Fist, Davos aka Steel Serpent is also imprisoned and not killed off.

What's the point of killing off named villains? The various DC TV series manages to keep the big named villains alive or finds a gimmick for them to return such as through time travel or from an alternate reality.
 
#12
I love(d) comics - though I stopped reading them regularly in 1984 ish.

(Strange that there's more Marvel history SINCE I stopped reading than before...)

But comics as a medium are different from TV and Film (which themselves are different from each other). Comics have a couple of plot limiters built in. Most importantly , because they have to produce a couple of dozen titles as week for decade after decade - nobody stays dead. Even Gwen Stacey and Uncle Ben have re-appeared. You think Cthulhu is clever? All you have to do is be in a comic. Doesn't even take strange aeons.

But when you transfer them to the TV or film, you bring a very deep bench of characters. If you kill one off there are plenty of replacements. There's no need to keep them going. Different media, different plot demands.

And anyway, it's a piece of p*ss to bring back The Purple Man. He just might be wearing a different body.

And just because JJ had a costume and could fly in the comics doesn't mean she has to in the TV series. Given the budget, flying would either break the budget or look silly. Nothing would be added that her out of shot leaping couldn't do. And they repeatedly demonstrate why subtle outfits are better than low budget Superhero costumes.
 
#13
I actually feel that comics are better suited for television rather than a 2+ hour movie adaption. You can squeeze the content of one issue into a single episode and run a whole story-arc over an entire season. That's what Gotham is doing right now. You can also develop characters over the course of a season and use gimmicks like flashbacks to show the hero's birth and past - just like in Arrow.

In regards to the rule where nobody stays dead: There is always a gimmick to bring somebody back from the dead, but they don't just walk through the door as if nothing has happened. Often it has to do with time travel, alternate time lines, parallel Earths or a handy Lazarus Pit hidden away somewhere. The most common trope is "I wasn't actually dead but faking it" that pops up, such as in the case of Steve Rogers (Captain America) and Bruce Wayne (Batman) - both seen killed off in the comics before being brought back later on. Flashpoint in the DC universe is a prime example of this, when Barry Allen creates an alternate time line when he went back in time to try and save his mother, allowing the writers to resurrect certain heroes and villains. Plus both DC and Marvel have recently rebooted their universes in print.

As for the Purple Man, they just have to bring back David Tennant. He stole the show in season one, which is by far my favourite season out of all the Marvel Netflix shows. I just feel that after that JJ has gone down hill story wise.
 

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#14
The villain that @Nathan refers to isn't out of the series. Their voice is still heard as an inner demon for JJ. Much more subtle than them popping up again.
 
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