[FATE] The Fate of Cthulhu KS in a nutshell

#1
Designer (D): We're kick-starting the thing!
Customer (C): Oh wow the thing! I want the thing!
D: Sorry we don't ship the thing to your country
C: WTF?! BUT THE THING!?
D: We have oft stated why we don't ship the thing..
C: But ... The thing?
D: We haven't shipped the thing to your country for some time now
C: Yes ... But the thing?
D: You could always get a digital thing?
C: I want the printed thing?
D: You could get it shipped to you by a third party
C: Sir, you seem to be missing that I want the thing?
D: You could wait a couple of weeks and get it from your FLGS?
C: Sir! The thing! I want it!
D: Doing that puts an unnecessary risk on our company that we have ridden out once and don't want to do again
C: But Sir, I am your *customer* and I WANT THE BLOODY THING!
D: Sorry?
C: OTHER companies ship their things
D: Bigger companies with more resources and more risk protection yes.
C: They ship the thing from nearer me?
D: See above....
C: YOU CLEARLY INTEND TO CONTINUE THIS MADNESS. I AM NO LONGER YOUR CUSTOMER. GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR! GOOD DAY!
D: ...Bye?
C: ..... btw? Still really want the thing....
 

Guvnor

Administrator
Staff member
#5
They need to adopt the approach that Paul and others use on DriveThru. Trad print for the US market and retail distribution. POD for KS. Mind you, they are bits n mortar so one can just wait.
 

pedr

Lay member
#7
I have had a fair number of KSs where they send you the pdf and then a code for local printing. These have always worked well.
This is a good solution below a certain volume and for a product which isn’t intended to get into distribution to game stores (and possibly Amazon!) The per-unit price of printing on demand is still much higher than a traditional print run, once a company is producing a decent number of copies. It’s possible to offer both, but every POD copy sold is one you don’t get printed in the print run, driving that per-copy cost back up. If Evil Hat games didn’t get into British game stores then I could see that there’d be a stronger argument but paying $20 for the digital stretch goals and access to the PDF a few weeks early then buying from a store seems like a good solution to me.

As for the take on Cthulhu, it interests me much more than the traditional!
 
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#9
I understand their position on international posting. But they lost me on the whole Terminator vs Cthulhu angle :)
You see, this is what piqued my interest. And yeah, it's not like their books aren't in distribution over here - just back it, or don't if you just want the print and wait a few weeks more. I've definitely had times when I've seen KS print copies in the shops before my backer copies have arrived - although this isn't great really and it did annoy me.
 
#10
You see, this is what piqued my interest. And yeah, it's not like their books aren't in distribution over here - just back it, or don't if you just want the print and wait a few weeks more. I've definitely had times when I've seen KS print copies in the shops before my backer copies have arrived - although this isn't great really and it did annoy me.
But you eventually got "the thing" unlike some poor miserable customers denied for no fault of their own but geography. Ha ha ha! The opening salvo of this thread is just so epic.
 
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#11
Yeah it kinda annoyed me several kickstarters ago when they announced they weren't going to be shipping outside of the US.

But on the plus side their books always hit the retail channels in the UK fairly quickly at a reasonable price so not a massive issue. Be nice if they did something like if you bought the digital version you could get a voucher as a discount for the hardback in the UK or something but that's a fair amount of logistics.

As an aside postage from the US is ridiculous. My son's best friend from primary school moved to Detroit, and he recently sent my son a letter and a Hot Wheels car - the postage on the envelope was $16! For a small jiffy bag weighing about 100g.
 

Dom

Administrator
#12
So, we send people back in time to stop the Stars Aligning...
... hang on, that's unlikely to be viable.
So, we send people back in time to investigate mythos activity and disrupt it to prevent the CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN?
... so it's historical investigations with (maybe) tech added? :rolleyes:

Feels like a way to work around accusations of a cash in. The world needs another Cthulhu game like the world needs another OSR clone. ;)

Then again, if you want to do it with FATE, I guess that's a reason to back it.
 
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There’s a long Fred Hicks thread on Twitter which says this started as a “how can we do something like Terminator when we won’t be able to get the licence?” so its aimed at being a save the world from the future game rather than a Cthulhu game, at least in thematic starting point. I’m interested to see the approach it takes to time travel.
 
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